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Coach Fake Tip 4 : Interior and Lining

Written by deluxmall on 5:07 PM

Interior/Lining:

The type of lining a bag will have is determined by the exterior of the bag. Signature bags will never have a signature lining. Signature lining should only be found on leather and suede bags. Signature bags will have a twill or silk-like solid lining. Some of the newer bags will have a rainbow colored lining.


REAL. Signature lining on red leather bag.


REAL. Signature lining on Hamptons Weekend bag.


REAL. Mini signature lining on blue leather bag.


FAKE. Signature lining on a signature bag? Big no-no. Also, check out the horrible stitching around the creed. You should be able to make out each individual stitch on an authentic bag.


FAKE. Another bad signature/signature combo.

Coach Fake Tip 3 : Stitching

Written by deluxmall on 5:07 PM

Stitching is a vital part of authenticity. Stitches should always be even and consistent. The number of stitches should always be the same around the hangtag, and stitches are not doubled up.


REAL. If the bag has "feet", they should have stitching around the feet.


REAL. The stitches are all the same size, even, and straight.


FAKE. Bad/uneven stitching here. Also, the Coach stamp is crooked!

Coach Fake Tip 4 : Interior and Lining

Written by deluxmall on 5:07 PM

Interior/Lining:

The type of lining a bag will have is determined by the exterior of the bag. Signature bags will never have a signature lining. Signature lining should only be found on leather and suede bags. Signature bags will have a twill or silk-like solid lining. Some of the newer bags will have a rainbow colored lining.


REAL. Signature lining on red leather bag.


REAL. Signature lining on Hamptons Weekend bag.


REAL. Mini signature lining on blue leather bag.


FAKE. Signature lining on a signature bag? Big no-no. Also, check out the horrible stitching around the creed. You should be able to make out each individual stitch on an authentic bag.


FAKE. Another bad signature/signature combo.

Coach Fake Tip 3 : Stitching

Written by deluxmall on 5:07 PM

Stitching is a vital part of authenticity. Stitches should always be even and consistent. The number of stitches should always be the same around the hangtag, and stitches are not doubled up.


REAL. If the bag has "feet", they should have stitching around the feet.


REAL. The stitches are all the same size, even, and straight.


FAKE. Bad/uneven stitching here. Also, the Coach stamp is crooked!

Coach Fake Tip 2 : SYMMETRY

Written by deluxmall on 4:55 PM

Symmetry in Design

First of all, not all all bags or purses are designed to be symmetrical. So how do you know if it is supposed to symmetrical? It is important to do some research youself , however it is sometimes pretty obvious. Following is the guide.

Look at the picture below on what I mean by symmetry. Start from the "SHADED GREEN PORTION" at the centre, examine closely at how uniform the Coach design is at the stitches and how much COACH stress on symmetry which is close to perfection on both side. It is like a mirror-image if you draw a centre line.



























Take for example, If you draw a orange line along the cente, you will notice that it is a mirror image.

Take a look at the blue Arrow. Both the left and right arrow has similar cut at the right to edge. The detail of symmetry is close to perfection























Following are examples of "suspected" Coach replica, notice the symmetry.

















"C" Logo cut off is FAKE

Some "expert" claimed that no "C" logos should be cut off at any of the bag's edges or seams. An authentic Coach bag does not display a logo that has been severed or partially sewn into a seam. All the “C” should be complete and should not be compromise in any way. We DISMISSED this claim, above bag is a classic example where the "C" logo is cut off

Coach Fake Tip 2 : SYMMETRY

Written by deluxmall on 4:55 PM

Symmetry in Design

First of all, not all all bags or purses are designed to be symmetrical. So how do you know if it is supposed to symmetrical? It is important to do some research youself , however it is sometimes pretty obvious. Following is the guide.

Look at the picture below on what I mean by symmetry. Start from the "SHADED GREEN PORTION" at the centre, examine closely at how uniform the Coach design is at the stitches and how much COACH stress on symmetry which is close to perfection on both side. It is like a mirror-image if you draw a centre line.



























Take for example, If you draw a orange line along the cente, you will notice that it is a mirror image.

Take a look at the blue Arrow. Both the left and right arrow has similar cut at the right to edge. The detail of symmetry is close to perfection























Following are examples of "suspected" Coach replica, notice the symmetry.

















"C" Logo cut off is FAKE

Some "expert" claimed that no "C" logos should be cut off at any of the bag's edges or seams. An authentic Coach bag does not display a logo that has been severed or partially sewn into a seam. All the “C” should be complete and should not be compromise in any way. We DISMISSED this claim, above bag is a classic example where the "C" logo is cut off

Coach Fake Tip 1 : Creed

Written by deluxmall on 4:52 PM

The Coach patch, creed and serial number is the number 1 topic of conversation when the authenticity of a Coach purse is being discussed. Nobody wants to buy a counterfeit bag. Everybody wants to know for sure if their bag is authentic, particularly when buying from an online auction like eBay. But is this mysterious serial number a true indicator? In a word, NO.
First, a true serial number is unique. Finding a Coach patch with an actual unique serial number is next to impossible. Coach hasn't used a true serial number for about 10 years. Sure, the older bags had true serial numbers, but not anymore. The myths , urban legends or simple un-truths surrounding "the patch" have caused many a girl to go into a panicked frenzy of sorts after receiving a bag that had a patch with no numbers or worse yet, no patch at all!

The fact is not all bags have them. Actually, most do not! Nobody really knows for certain what determines Coach's decision to place a leather creed patch with numbers in certain bags but a general rule of thumb is this: If Coach deems the purse a handbag, it will have a leather creed patch with numbers . Items not counting as handbags would include wristlets, mini skinny's, cosmetic pouch bags and other accessories. There will sometimes be leather patches with the creed, but not any numbers in these smaller accessory type products. The numbers, when present, represent the style number and a code of date of manufacture. So you will see the same style number on every bag of that style but you might find some bags with different numbers other than the style numbers. The numbers can also contain letters. There are more than a few different creeds but the most common ones will read something like these:

THIS IS A COACH BAG. IT WAS HANDCRAFTED IN CHINA FROM THE FINEST MATERIALS TRIMMED WITH GENUINE LEATHER. ITS SUPERIOR CRAFTSMANSHIP AND ATTENTION TO DETAIL REFLECT OUR COMMITMENT TO ENDURING QUALITY.
THIS IS A COACH BAG. IT WAS HANDCRAFTED IN CHINA OF COMPLETELY NATURAL SOFT MILLED COWHIDE. THE VARIATIONS IN THE GRAIN ARE CHARACTERISTIC OF NATURAL FULL GRAIN LEATHER.

Most of the leather patches are beautifully embossed. Some of the newer bags have a metallic cursive style writing on them rather than an embossing. Some of the accessory type bags, as mentioned above, will not have any numbers but may still have a creed of sorts, usually a shorter version of the above examples.

Another misconception is that Coach bags are made in the USA and that anything made in China must be fake. This is not true and it's hard to believe so many people believe it. Coach hasn't made bags in the USA for about 10 years and 90% or more of their products are manufactured in China. There are other countries too such as Turkey, Italy, Pakistan, Mexico and India among others. You will almost always see the word China on their creed patches.

The bottom line is that just because a Coach bag is without a leather creed, does not mean it's a knockoff. Most companies manufacturing fake bags would put one in anyways. It might not be the correct style numbers. It might not be leather. It might have words spelled incorrectly. Still, it will likely be there with a fake bag. So don't get too excited by a "no patch" bag. Instead, learn the style number of your bag and if it has a patch, see that it matches the numbers on the creed. Check for incorrect spellings. Make sure the patch is actually leather. To recap, if it's a small pouch bag, cosmetic bag, wristlet or other accessory, it likely shouldn't have one in it anyway. Of course, there are exceptions to this accessories rule, but it's accurate most of the time. Some of the more expensive accessories will have the full creed in them such as limited edition items.

Coach Fake Tip 1 : Creed

Written by deluxmall on 4:52 PM

The Coach patch, creed and serial number is the number 1 topic of conversation when the authenticity of a Coach purse is being discussed. Nobody wants to buy a counterfeit bag. Everybody wants to know for sure if their bag is authentic, particularly when buying from an online auction like eBay. But is this mysterious serial number a true indicator? In a word, NO.
First, a true serial number is unique. Finding a Coach patch with an actual unique serial number is next to impossible. Coach hasn't used a true serial number for about 10 years. Sure, the older bags had true serial numbers, but not anymore. The myths , urban legends or simple un-truths surrounding "the patch" have caused many a girl to go into a panicked frenzy of sorts after receiving a bag that had a patch with no numbers or worse yet, no patch at all!

The fact is not all bags have them. Actually, most do not! Nobody really knows for certain what determines Coach's decision to place a leather creed patch with numbers in certain bags but a general rule of thumb is this: If Coach deems the purse a handbag, it will have a leather creed patch with numbers . Items not counting as handbags would include wristlets, mini skinny's, cosmetic pouch bags and other accessories. There will sometimes be leather patches with the creed, but not any numbers in these smaller accessory type products. The numbers, when present, represent the style number and a code of date of manufacture. So you will see the same style number on every bag of that style but you might find some bags with different numbers other than the style numbers. The numbers can also contain letters. There are more than a few different creeds but the most common ones will read something like these:

THIS IS A COACH BAG. IT WAS HANDCRAFTED IN CHINA FROM THE FINEST MATERIALS TRIMMED WITH GENUINE LEATHER. ITS SUPERIOR CRAFTSMANSHIP AND ATTENTION TO DETAIL REFLECT OUR COMMITMENT TO ENDURING QUALITY.
THIS IS A COACH BAG. IT WAS HANDCRAFTED IN CHINA OF COMPLETELY NATURAL SOFT MILLED COWHIDE. THE VARIATIONS IN THE GRAIN ARE CHARACTERISTIC OF NATURAL FULL GRAIN LEATHER.

Most of the leather patches are beautifully embossed. Some of the newer bags have a metallic cursive style writing on them rather than an embossing. Some of the accessory type bags, as mentioned above, will not have any numbers but may still have a creed of sorts, usually a shorter version of the above examples.

Another misconception is that Coach bags are made in the USA and that anything made in China must be fake. This is not true and it's hard to believe so many people believe it. Coach hasn't made bags in the USA for about 10 years and 90% or more of their products are manufactured in China. There are other countries too such as Turkey, Italy, Pakistan, Mexico and India among others. You will almost always see the word China on their creed patches.

The bottom line is that just because a Coach bag is without a leather creed, does not mean it's a knockoff. Most companies manufacturing fake bags would put one in anyways. It might not be the correct style numbers. It might not be leather. It might have words spelled incorrectly. Still, it will likely be there with a fake bag. So don't get too excited by a "no patch" bag. Instead, learn the style number of your bag and if it has a patch, see that it matches the numbers on the creed. Check for incorrect spellings. Make sure the patch is actually leather. To recap, if it's a small pouch bag, cosmetic bag, wristlet or other accessory, it likely shouldn't have one in it anyway. Of course, there are exceptions to this accessories rule, but it's accurate most of the time. Some of the more expensive accessories will have the full creed in them such as limited edition items.

Tips on how not to buy a fake bag online

Written by deluxmall on 10:11 PM

Buying online is always a risk. It is easy if you can see, feel and touch the real thing but by just looking at pictures it is really hard to tell the different between the real from the fake.

If you really need to buy that bag online, following are some tips to help you make your decision, The two factors that help you need that decision is SELLER and the his/her GOODS-

(1) Seller

(2) Bag Authentication

To authenticate bags the following photos,

1) photos of the bag (yes many times people just post a photo of the tag, not enough!)













2) close ups of the serial tag: front showing the "Gucci made in italy" stamping and the back showing the serial number (as follow, click to enlarge)














3) may also need close ups of the hardware markings (as follow, click to enlarge)















If looking at a wallet, please make sure you include:

1) close up of the serial number located underneath the credit card slots

2) "Gucci made in italy" stamping in the bottom cornerWhen taking close up photos please or ask sellers to:1) NOT use flash2) NOT use zoom

3) do use macro mode that is usually indicated by a flower on most digital cameras

4) do take photo in lots of light (no flash though), by a window is good

5) use a steady handIf you cannot get a clear photo it may mean you are too close or too far away from the object.

In macro mode there is an ideal range of distances between the camera lens and the object. So if you can't get a clear photo move the camera forwards and backwards and play around with it!

Tips on how not to buy a fake bag online

Written by deluxmall on 10:11 PM

Buying online is always a risk. It is easy if you can see, feel and touch the real thing but by just looking at pictures it is really hard to tell the different between the real from the fake.

If you really need to buy that bag online, following are some tips to help you make your decision, The two factors that help you need that decision is SELLER and the his/her GOODS-

(1) Seller

(2) Bag Authentication

To authenticate bags the following photos,

1) photos of the bag (yes many times people just post a photo of the tag, not enough!)













2) close ups of the serial tag: front showing the "Gucci made in italy" stamping and the back showing the serial number (as follow, click to enlarge)














3) may also need close ups of the hardware markings (as follow, click to enlarge)















If looking at a wallet, please make sure you include:

1) close up of the serial number located underneath the credit card slots

2) "Gucci made in italy" stamping in the bottom cornerWhen taking close up photos please or ask sellers to:1) NOT use flash2) NOT use zoom

3) do use macro mode that is usually indicated by a flower on most digital cameras

4) do take photo in lots of light (no flash though), by a window is good

5) use a steady handIf you cannot get a clear photo it may mean you are too close or too far away from the object.

In macro mode there is an ideal range of distances between the camera lens and the object. So if you can't get a clear photo move the camera forwards and backwards and play around with it!

Authencity by looking at Monogram Gucci the "GG"

Written by deluxmall on 9:33 AM

Studying the textile is one of the most challenging to tell if the bag is authentic. Following are examples of authentic bag, two things to notice.

(1) The "thickness" of the fonts for "GG"

Look at the textile between the two canvas below, the fake is so realistic that it is really hard to tell the fake from the real from the fake. But if you notice the fake "G" is thicker than the real ones. (Enlarge to see the differences). In some cases, the "G" is much slimmer than the real thing. Well unless you are bringing a real canvas against a fake, it is really hard to tell the differences. (Click to Enlarge Pic)














(2) The "triangle" that formed at the edge of "G"

If you observe closely at the edge, which differentiate a C" from a "G". The horizontal line across actually formed a inverted triangle. Refer to the following diagram for better understanding. This is a characteristc of the "G" font. (Click to Enlarge Pic)





(3)Monogram Gucci the "GG" has clearly separated

Therefore as "GG" touches each other then it is certainly Fake. See below on how some of the GG touches each other. Click to Enlarge Pic.





Following are examples of authentic monogram for your references. Notice the thickness of the font and the shape of the font. Also take note that the line that difference G from C forms a little triangle. Click to Enlarge Pic.





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